Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

You don’t give a guy like Evans carte blanche for a family trip to Australia for “activism”. Why did he need to take the family? He didn’t think twice about leaving them shortly after Christmas for Thailand.

If anything you collect what you can and then tell him what you have money for and equally importantly what you DON’T have money for. The rest can be picked up by the TTATT guys (who were there filming and were collecting donations), Lloyd’s Patrons who were already funding his worldwide activism trips and documentaries, or Lloyd out of his own savings which were excess donations.

So a well intentioned if a bit misguided exJW couple had to go out of pocket for $15K AUD so Jabba the Hutt could order the lobster on the menu and take a trip to the Great Barrier Reef. Part of me wants to sympathise with them and another part wants to tell them what happens to fools and their money.

Now imagine the conversation to be had if that same couple, after hearing what he did in Thailand with mostly donated funds, publicly brought up the fact they felt a bit deceived by him and his claim he didn’t have enough money for the Australia trip:

You are being misled by “Kim’s lies”

You are behaving like JWs, always judging others.

You are such a puritan. Stop thinking like JWs and be a bit more understanding about people’s sexual needs and urges.

This is none of your business. My wife was the only one deceived, not you.

I didn’t pay for sex. I was dating the sex worker. Duh!

It looks like you never really left the organisation. Such a pity.

I am blocking you on social media until you apologise to me.

You are cyber-bullying me.

I am sending you a legal demand letter to pay me €8000 or you will be sued.

Since you didn’t pay me €8000 you are now a “defendant” in a Croatian criminal lawsuit that I filed.

So you made a livestream about my legal threats? Well you are misinformed and I’ll see you in court. I’d recommend getting a good Croatian lawyer.

So after putting up $15K AUD, they didn’t get a “thank you”. They got a “fuck you”.

THIS IS WHY YOU DON’T GIVE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET MONEY.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I am reasonably informed that they were out of pocket AUD $15,000.00

I’m almost afraid to ask as I think I know what the answer may be. Was this money funnelled directly to Lloyd? Not asking for a name, but was this all gathered by one person who then paid Lloyd? Or were his tickets bought directly out of this slush fund as well as other amenities and the remainder just donated to him directly? How exactly was this distributed if you know and don’t mind sharing?

Have to hand it to him, he out-WTed the Watchtower with his donation schemes.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Was Lloyd banned from this "9 long years" thread?

Lloyd was/is banned from this site, JWN. His posts are still up but his account is locked. He can’t post anymore.

But what I think is wrong is standing by and watching Kim on the end of a tirade of abuse from exjws for stating the truth. Anyone & everyone should condemn that, no matter what your opinion of Lloyd is.

That’s really what the livestream was all about. It was a huge bat signal for everyone to dump on Kim which he fully expected would then happen. What he didn’t expect was for several prominent friends & allies of his to actually put on their thinking cap once the shock wore off. Some took a week or more, others took a month or so to fully understand what they were being sold.

He, his wife and kids all had their fares paid (and I've no doubt accomodations) which is a hellova lot of money.

I’ll look for it if you are interested, but someone who met him at the Aussie event called him out on xJW Reddit for seeming to want all the attention and enjoying the fruits of the generosity of others. It went about as well as you could imagine. Vintage Lloyd. First he hissed at him that he was posting from the comfort of his anonymity. The guy then claps back at him and says “I was the guy with the beard who stood next to you whilst you were speaking with Javier Ortiz”. Lloyd then changes tack and goes after him as “the creepy bearded stalker” as if he never looked in a mirror.

I don’t claim to know much about the Aussie event and I’m sure there are many who know more. What I did hear was some chatter from Aus/NZ exJWs who were under the impression that Lloyd and his family were in need and it would be best if they could chip in to help with what was a truly altruistic venture. They were shocked at what they witnessed.

A family of four get flown from Croatia to Australia and it’s for Lloyd to interview people? I think this is why the revelation that he was regularly seeing prostitutes for several years stung so much for many. He brought his family up front and centre and made a huge display out of it, but in reality they were enabling another asshole of a husband who was putting on a show and in true WT style was collecting on both ends. Did the Patreon funds stop while he was in Australia? He got paid twice over!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Lloyd was never banned from the xJW Reddit. He voluntarily left and PB created JW Watch Reddit. He still had a lot of fans there even after his meltdown and it seems they have returned since the demise of JW Watch.

Before he was banned from here, his post count was limited to like 5 a day. And of course that wasn’t enough for him so he started posting under his wife’s account (Mrs Cedars). I saw a huge red flag that he had the password for her account and just took it over.

His wife made only a handful of posts herself. After all, she was only good for “exchanging recipes” and he falsely claimed her English wasn’t fluent. It was all part of his overall plan to isolate her, and when she did post he was lurking so it made it uneasy to post anything in response to her. He was quick to claim him and his wife were being attacked on the slightest provocation and it wasn’t worth it.

Mrs Cedars, we hardly knew ye.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I really wish they'd consider just how bad the exjw community had got with him as king pin.

I wish I could double thumb up this comment up.

Even here, on JWN, with Lloyd banned and him being completely at odds with the site owner, you couldn’t get a comment off about Lloyd without one of his Cedarite goons going off on you saying you are doing WT a favour.

What made that comment total and utter dumbfuckery was the fact that this same logic was bubbling out of his very own lips the entire time he was here.

Always: “if you criticise me, then you are aiding WT”.

Also: “I know I keep asking for donations, but I can think of 8 men in Brooklyn that are more deserving of your criticisms”

I still can’t believe how many people were duped by him. And you people should know better. You know, the supposed “truth about the truth” people? The same people who took WT to task and critically analysed what they had been fed only to turn right around and take it straight up the ass from Lloyd? Disgusting, right? Well that’s the best way I can describe it.

People who took the word of a con man as truth while he couldn’t even finish his con without naming and shaming those he felt were enemies.

Don’t believe me? Go to page one of this thread. Read Mike and Kim’s OP and their two subsequent comments. The first one all they did was point to Kim’s Reddit thread blowing the whistle. 11 thumbs down. Second one - After Reddit TOOK DOWN Kim’s post under the dubious reason of “we don’t know if this is the real Kim Silvio” like she needed a Twitter blue check or something. Mike and Kim copied and pasted Kim’s statement since the link was now dead.

9 thumbs down.

Third post of theirs they pointed to a shared drive WITH EVIDENCE of Kim’s identity and her comments about Lloyd. Kind of the reason the xJW Reddit mods took her post down?

9 more thumbs down.

All for presenting EVIDENCE that a more than a few people’s apostate hero was DECEIVING people by saying their donations were going to make more videos and to buy equipment and maybe some sweets and toys for his daughters. People were thumbing down Mike and Kim for pasting Kim’s comments which Lloyd later CONFIRMED in his livestream, FB posts and Twitter.

And it was only when he said he did it that you finally believed it?

Amazing, since it seems all Lloyd had to do was was deny he ever went to Thailand and we’d still have people commenting on this thread about Kim’s lies and hey those WhatsApp msgs she posted from Lloyd saying he was in Thailand paying for sex were made up. Forgeries!

I remember hearing rumours at JW conventions about apostates doctoring WTs and placing them near toilet stalls. I believed it then. I don’t now.

Some people hadn’t learnt a fucking thing. And it took Kim to put herself out there to get absolutely crucified online and a drunken livestream from Lloyd for them to finally get the message that Lloyd Evans is a total fraud and grifter.

That’s way more shameful than this thread ever was at its very worst.

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Who wrote the book of Hebrews?

by Fisherman in

there are good reasons to belief that paul wrote hebrews.

i am convinced he wrote it.

is there any any convincing evidence or argument that can validate the belief?.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I’m pretty sure he was Hebrew.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I think they must have known what kind of person LE is and they were fine with

Lloyd was in many ways the exJW mafia, sad to say. Before you all comment on his appearance, please remember that Jabba the Hutt ran a criminal enterprise on Star Wars.

Al Capone had a bit of a weight problem too.

To get anything big done you needed Jabba the Hutt’s support, either directly or tacitly. And boy could he shut your ass down by a simple tweet. It was like the fucking bat signal for his goon squad.

O’Donnell and Ortiz knew this. O’Donnell didn’t want a public break with him lest he shit all over what Mark was doing. He did just that to Marc Latham. Ortiz would have never gotten the exJW support he needed for his documentary without Lloyd. I always thought that as an indie semi-professional filmmaker Lloyd’s slovenly appearance was a detriment to the project and Lloyd’s insistence on being the interviewer played a huge part in him winning the role.

So they thought they were in cahoots with Michael Corleone. But they were really in business with Fredo.

So tragic.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Is there a way to contact these people so we can let them know about this thread and who/what Lloyd Evans is?

[email protected] or by sms on +385 91 5440520

Marina's comedy club general info:

[email protected]

+385 95 868 1319

Probably look them up on WhatsApp

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I'm sure the comedy will be the woke bullshit being literally shoved down our throats.

Here's one of the bios for the 3 comedians:

MIRANDA LONČAR (BiH) She is a weird atheist with a poor memory. By heart she only knows two things: Lord’s prayer and her ex’s number. Neither of them is answering. When she came of age her parents gave her the best contraception a woman can have: feminism. Combined with a certain regard for female mustache. A woman can do anything, they said. So she does everything. She works and cleans and cooks and takes care of twins. All in all, she is massively joyous to be alive and laugh about the good and the bad life brings. Or … she dies. Jokes aside, since she started doing stand up she collected a serious amount of preformances through entire Balkan region and she also performed in London, Budapest and Zurich. In 2014 she appears in „Stand-up Express“ by Comedy Central Extra and in 2017 in „Comedy Klasik Show“ on Klasik TV.

As for Marina Orsag, she's the organiser. Here's her profile pic:

And of course, here's Lloyd's:

LLOYD EVANS (UK)
Lloyd Evans is a Manchester-born writer and filmmaker who has lived in Croatia for 13 years and recently moved to Zagreb. Lloyd has made numerous TV appearances to share his knowledge about Jehovah's Witnesses, a religion he walked away from soon after leaving the UK. Lloyd also has two books and a YouTube channel dedicated to discussing atheism, the Bible and his former religion. Now he is transforming all of that into stand up

I wonder if these feminists know that Lloyd is a regular connoisseur of sex trafficking victims in Croatia and Thailand?

So three feminists who seem to have experience in stand-up plus... Lloyd Evans? Per his bio it looks like he's using his JW activism background as a basis for his routine.

Man is his spot going to suck. I'm sure the audience will just gobble up his Kingdom Hall stories and be on the floor laughing.

Marina and her two real comedians need to know who they are sharing their stage with.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

I wouldn't get all caught up in the websites going down as proof he's bleeding badly. Go by the Patronage and him relatively being stuck in neutral for the past few months. Lloyd is a shrewd businessman and had a knack for getting people to send him money for projects that in NO WAY could be used for personal enrichment and were SOLELY used to bring down WT. Also, Tony Robbins has a tonne of resources available on his website that for a "small fee" can be utilised to help YOU enrich YOURSELF!

As Kim stated, Lloyd had no interest in the website. As for the Reluctant Apostate website, it had already served its purpose and probably wasn't really needed to begin with. He's writing two new books according to his Twitter feed and TRA is old light. Besides, he needs to tell his own sordid story about how he betrayed his wife and he would have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids!

The money is just not there in the websites. When he was on here it was always about the website and pestering people to take that bullshit survey. At some point he realised a better business plan was to get his greasy and bloated face onto YouTube, monetise off that and shame people into joining as Patrons when he claimed YT was demonetising him.

His brand is shit and no one is seriously buying those Tibor shirts. What he should do is create special "Litigation" shirts... Like use a Star Wars font and say "May The Litigation Be With You"